between european union members and the united states. >> for people like you and me who travel and go to things like this, you work on the assumption that this is the kind of risk you've got to avoid, a usb stick. >> it is an obvious way of downloading a bug or virus onto a computer which can be used to send back a to in the future. certainly, many people attending conferences in far-off countries have to be wary of that. certainly, the suggestion from the british delegation is that they did not touch these memory sticks and mobile phone charging cables. >> let's move on with the business and some good news, relatively, for spain. >> we have to take the good news where we can get it. ofer more than two years shrinking wealth, official figures show that spain has done it -- it is out of recession.